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		<title>88.108.204.181: Undo revision 130071 by [[Special:Contributions/[IP address hidden]|[IP address hidden]]] ([[User talk:[IP address hidden]|talk]])</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Undo revision 130071 by [[Special:Contributions/[IP address hidden]|[IP address hidden]]] ([[User talk:[IP address hidden]|talk]])&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;minus;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;IIs it a bluff that woodworm just vandalize old properties, or they just make harm to your brand new furniture?&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Question (13/6/2013)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;minus;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;lt;[https&lt;/del&gt;:&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;//www&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;naturechatters&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;com/2018/08/what&lt;/del&gt;-&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;are&lt;/del&gt;-the-&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;signs&lt;/del&gt;-&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;of&lt;/del&gt;-&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;woodworm&lt;/del&gt;-infestation.&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;html https:&lt;/del&gt;/&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;/www&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;naturechatters&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;com/2018/08/what-&lt;/del&gt;are-the&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-signs-&lt;/del&gt;of&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-woodworm-infestation.html]&lt;/del&gt;&amp;amp;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;gt&lt;/del&gt;;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Why would someone not reduce the water content of the effected timber resulting in the larvae dying before they create an exit hole? Natural enemies address the symptom but not the underlying problem, namely&lt;/ins&gt;: &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;timber susceptible to attack&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;One of the key issues with furniture beetle control is that the exit hole remain after the insect has gone leading to later mis-diagnosis of activity and potentially needless re-treatments&lt;/ins&gt;. &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;This proposed 'solution' does not address this at all. There is also no control in this trial&lt;/ins&gt;- &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;would the furniture beetle have re&lt;/ins&gt;-&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;infested &lt;/ins&gt;the &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;cottage or flown away to lay eggs in timber more likely to support larvae? The implication here is that Pholcus have prevented further damage to the building, but there is no evidence of this.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;----&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Answer (13/6/2013)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;There is no excuse for surveyors being unable to differentiate between historic and active &lt;/ins&gt;infestation&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;! Active woodworm is always accompanied by the presence of fresh frass (and the occasional dead beetle on a window sill!)&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;We are hoping that one of our postgraduate students (subject to funding&lt;/ins&gt;/&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;sponsorship) will extend the trial &lt;/ins&gt;..&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;.complete with more rigorous controls. The implication of the informal trial is that spider populations &lt;/ins&gt;are &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;self&lt;/ins&gt;-&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;regulating and &lt;/ins&gt;the &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;arrival &lt;/ins&gt;of &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;fresh &lt;/ins&gt;&amp;amp;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;quot&lt;/ins&gt;;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;egg laden&amp;amp;quot; woodworm beetles would provoke a welcome response. During the trial, and in most places where furniture beetles occur, emerging adults fly towards the light and meet potential partners. Spiders jostle for window positions (usually occupied by a large mature females) and will feast on the beetles usually before they have mated.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Regarding moisture levels etc. It might be very difficult in older buildings to sufficiently reduce timber moisture to kill woodworm larvae. It could be done in conjunction with Pholcus as these spiders are particularly tolerant of low humidity.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>106.215.140.171 at 17:01, 12 March 2019</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;color: red; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;IIs it a bluff that woodworm just vandalize old properties, or they just make harm to your brand new furniture?&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #eee; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;minus;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Question (13&lt;/del&gt;/&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;6&lt;/del&gt;/&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;2013)&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;&amp;amp;lt;[https:&lt;/ins&gt;//&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;www&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;naturechatters&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;com/2018/08/what&lt;/ins&gt;-&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;are&lt;/ins&gt;-the-&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;signs&lt;/ins&gt;-&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;of&lt;/ins&gt;-&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;woodworm&lt;/ins&gt;-infestation.&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;html https:&lt;/ins&gt;/&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;/www&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;naturechatters&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;com/2018/08/what-&lt;/ins&gt;are-the&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-signs-&lt;/ins&gt;of&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-&lt;/ins&gt;woodworm&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;-infestation&lt;/ins&gt;.&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;html]&amp;amp;gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;minus;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;minus;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Why would someone not reduce the water content of the effected timber resulting in the larvae dying before they create an exit hole? Natural enemies address the symptom but not the underlying problem, namely: timber susceptible to attack&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;minus;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;minus;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;One of the key issues with furniture beetle control is that the exit hole remain after the insect has gone leading to later mis-diagnosis of activity and potentially needless re-treatments&lt;/del&gt;. &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;This proposed 'solution' does not address this at all. There is also no control in this trial&lt;/del&gt;- &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;would the furniture beetle have re&lt;/del&gt;-&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;infested &lt;/del&gt;the &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;cottage or flown away to lay eggs in timber more likely to support larvae? The implication here is that Pholcus have prevented further damage to the building, but there is no evidence of this.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;minus;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;minus;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;----&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;minus;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;minus;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Answer (13/6/2013)&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;minus;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;minus;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;There is no excuse for surveyors being unable to differentiate between historic and active &lt;/del&gt;infestation&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;! Active woodworm is always accompanied by the presence of fresh frass (and the occasional dead beetle on a window sill!)&lt;/del&gt;.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;minus;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;&amp;minus;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #ffa; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;We are hoping that one of our postgraduate students (subject to funding&lt;/del&gt;/&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;sponsorship) will extend the trial &lt;/del&gt;..&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;.complete with more rigorous controls. The implication of the informal trial is that spider populations &lt;/del&gt;are &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;self&lt;/del&gt;-&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;regulating and &lt;/del&gt;the &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;arrival &lt;/del&gt;of &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;fresh &amp;quot;egg laden&amp;quot; &lt;/del&gt;woodworm &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;beetles would provoke a welcome response&lt;/del&gt;. &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;During the trial, and in most places where furniture beetles occur, emerging adults fly towards the light and meet potential partners. Spiders jostle for window positions (usually occupied by a large mature females) and will feast on the beetles usually before they have mated.&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background: #cfc; color:black; font-size: smaller;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Designing Buildings at 07:12, 29 September 2015</title>
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				<updated>2015-09-29T07:12:47Z</updated>
		
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		<title>Designing Buildings: Created page with &quot; Question (13/6/2013)  Why would someone not reduce the water content of the effected timber resulting in the larvae dying before they create an exit hole? Natural enemies addres...&quot;</title>
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				<updated>2013-06-23T07:16:58Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot; Question (13/6/2013)  Why would someone not reduce the water content of the effected timber resulting in the larvae dying before they create an exit hole? Natural enemies addres...&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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Why would someone not reduce the water content of the effected timber resulting in the larvae dying before they create an exit hole? Natural enemies address the symptom but not the underlying problem, namely: timber susceptible to attack.&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the key issues with furniture beetle control is that the exit hole remain after the insect has gone leading to later mis-diagnosis of activity and potentially needless re-treatments. This proposed 'solution' does not address this at all. There is also no control in this trial- would the furniture beetle have re-infested the cottage or flown away to lay eggs in timber more likely to support larvae? The implication here is that Pholcus have prevented further damage to the building, but there is no evidence of this.&lt;br /&gt;
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There is no excuse for surveyors being unable to differentiate between historic and active infestation! Active woodworm is always accompanied by the presence of fresh frass (and the occasional dead beetle on a window sill!).&lt;br /&gt;
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We are hoping that one of our postgraduate students (subject to funding/sponsorship) will extend the trial ...complete with more rigorous controls. The implication of the informal trial is that spider populations are self-regulating and the arrival of fresh &amp;quot;egg laden&amp;quot; woodworm beetles would provoke a welcome response. During the trial, and in most places where furniture beetles occur, emerging adults fly towards the light and meet potential partners. Spiders jostle for window positions (usually occupied by a large mature females) and will feast on the beetles usually before they have mated.&lt;br /&gt;
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Regarding moisture levels etc. It might be very difficult in older buildings to sufficiently reduce timber moisture to kill woodworm larvae. It could be done in conjunction with Pholcus as these spiders are particularly tolerant of low humidity.&amp;lt;br/&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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