Cedric Price Interview 3 - Revision history

Archiblog at 16:54, 11 December 2025

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	* CP ... your your evidence and order		* CP ... your your evidence and order
		+	*
	* NF Yes, I'll take your advice (inaudible) ... I'll probably leave ...		* NF Yes, I'll take your advice (inaudible) ... I'll probably leave ...
		+	*
	* CP. and then you con-... mom, mmm.. otherwise...		* CP. and then you con-... mom, mmm.. otherwise...
		+	*
	* NF I'm not in a hurry.		* NF I'm not in a hurry.
		+	*
	* CP ... otherwise, no, knowing Tony he'll just start trying to remember what he thought about it when he did it to explain it. But you, it's far more, you're using it as a catalyst - just like I use American Comics, still, I'll pick you up - I don't keep them for very long but but the whole way themes develop - not the drawings of them, the themes - they're very interesting they're very good because they break, they're an ageist thing ...		* CP ... otherwise, no, knowing Tony he'll just start trying to remember what he thought about it when he did it to explain it. But you, it's far more, you're using it as a catalyst - just like I use American Comics, still, I'll pick you up - I don't keep them for very long but but the whole way themes develop - not the drawings of them, the themes - they're very interesting they're very good because they break, they're an ageist thing ...
		+	*
	* NF Well I was going to say.		* NF Well I was going to say.
		+	*
	* CP ... yeah ... the readers of them are prepared to think in in in a way that they seem very logical - actually the "Tank Girl' they that's run out now it was only a few issues ...		* CP ... yeah ... the readers of them are prepared to think in in in a way that they seem very logical - actually the "Tank Girl' they that's run out now it was only a few issues ...
		+	*
	* NF Tank Girl' (laughs).		* NF Tank Girl' (laughs).
		+	*
	* CP ... I got all those - and it was very interesting how, in fact, in one way her mother was still alive and and she was a terrible woman and Tank Girl is not a very nice girl at all but it was very interesting that they could they, could write such a sloppy conventionally sort of, it was almost Barchester Towers' really, theme. It was riveting and it was riveting to the kids who read it ...		* CP ... I got all those - and it was very interesting how, in fact, in one way her mother was still alive and and she was a terrible woman and Tank Girl is not a very nice girl at all but it was very interesting that they could they, could write such a sloppy conventionally sort of, it was almost Barchester Towers' really, theme. It was riveting and it was riveting to the kids who read it ...
		+	*
	* NF Yes.		* NF Yes.
		+	*
	* CP ... so what I'm saying is that it might be Medikit or or me with Tank Girl, you know, you you it it sparks off something ...		* CP ... so what I'm saying is that it might be Medikit or or me with Tank Girl, you know, you you it it sparks off something ...
		+	*
	* NF Tank Girl sounds promising.		* NF Tank Girl sounds promising.
		+	*
	* CP Yeah but what - er yes - and what I'd do with you ... and there's all sorts of things of not really being sure whether um whether things are good or evil in a very sort of pictorial direct form and and does it really matter, in in a particular situation, you know, and then there's this this this, it's what you said when you came in, it isn't all that important where you finish up but it is important to have some order so that - it, which is why I would have put logic and language before you know, if language was communications ...		* CP Yeah but what - er yes - and what I'd do with you ... and there's all sorts of things of not really being sure whether um whether things are good or evil in a very sort of pictorial direct form and and does it really matter, in in a particular situation, you know, and then there's this this this, it's what you said when you came in, it isn't all that important where you finish up but it is important to have some order so that - it, which is why I would have put logic and language before you know, if language was communications ...
		+	*
	* NF Well...		* NF Well...
		+	*
	* CP ... I'd have done logic and language first ...		* CP ... I'd have done logic and language first ...
		+	*
	* NF ... we don't need to look at the Critical Path one but you see I was looking at them and it doesn't it's not it's not an order that's coming from inside - well, obviously, it's one outside me - but it's, and I'm thinking well how does that work and do you, how do you see it ...		* NF ... we don't need to look at the Critical Path one but you see I was looking at them and it doesn't it's not it's not an order that's coming from inside - well, obviously, it's one outside me - but it's, and I'm thinking well how does that work and do you, how do you see it ...

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−	* CP hat's right. But, but, but ...~~<br />~~	+	* CP hat's right. But, but, but ...
−	NE I always think I'm missing something.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	CP (laughs) Well, look, perhaps you are but..~~<br />~~	+	* NF I always think I'm missing something.
−	~~N F~~ Oh yes, I'm sure.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	CP No, no perhaps ... no. no but perhaps you're not but the point~~<br />~~	+	* CP (laughs) Well, look, perhaps you are but ...
−	is that I feel that I'm not being useful enough. There's ~~a<br />~~	+	*
−	~~difference~~ between comparing my thoughts with Bucky's thoughts~~<br />~~	+	* NF Oh yes, I'm sure.
−	for you to then assimilate as a just another set, you know, as~~<br />~~	+	*
−	a lot of others could do, but If you if you want to make a full~~<br />~~	+	* CP No, no perhaps ... no. no but perhaps you're not but the point is that I feel that I'm not being useful enough. There's adifference between comparing my thoughts with Bucky's thoughts for you to then assimilate as a just another set, you know, as a lot of others could do, but If you if you want to make a full um exchange if you did your ordering, which you've partly done, in in a form that can be sent in one sheet and said "I'd like to discuss this", you know, and there's big blanks, it doesn't matter, 'cause you could then say "Well, I don't mind that being a blank - I know something's gonna happen there ...
−	~~u m~~ exchange if you did your ordering, which you've partly done,~~<br />~~	+	*
−	in in a form that can be sent in one sheet and said "I'd like~~<br />~~	+	* NF (inaudible)
−	to discuss this", you know, and there's big blanks, it doesn't~~<br />~~	+	*
−	matter, cause you could then say "Well, I don't mind that~~<br />~~	+	* CP ... something's gonna happen there, but I don't know" and I'm busy saying "Well I, that blank I'd put this" - you then have another thing giving ...
−	being a blank - I know something's gonna happen there ...~~<br />~~	+	*
−	(inaudible)~~<br />~~	+	* NF So it's a game.
−	CP • something's gonna happen there, but I don't know" and I'm~~<br />~~	+	*
−	busy saying "Well I, that blank I'd put this" - you then have~~<br />~~	+	* CP Yes.
−	another thing giving •..~~<br />~~	+	*
−	NF So it's a game.~~<br />~~	+	* NF Yeah, yeah, I can do that. I'd like - yeah, that sounds - I hadn't thought of that at all.
−	Yes.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	NF Yeah, yeah, I can do that. I'd like - yeah, that sounds - I~~<br />~~	+	* CP Well then it's something that you can hand through to Roy Landau, I think - because you don't always have to see them ... and and you're moving on because then then your yours is as particular as any of these things and it's a useful tool. I'd do that next thing, really. You've got you've got enough - you've read enough...
−	hadn't thought of that at all.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	~~C P~~ Well then it's something that you can hand through to Roy~~<br />~~	+	* NF Mmm.
−	Landau, I think - because you don't always have to see them ..~~<br />~~	+	*
−	and and you're moving on because then then your yours is as~~<br />~~	+	* CP • because you've got a marvellous memory - you've always had. I'd do that.
−	particular as any of these things and it's a useful tool. I'd~~<br />~~	+	*
−	do that next thing, really. You've got you've got enough -~~<br />~~	+	* NF That sounds alright. It's gonna stop in a moment. (Tape about to run out)
−	you've read enough...~~<br />~~	+	*
−	NE Mmm.~~<br />~~	+	* CP Right.NF (inaudible) OK.CP Right.
−	CP • because you've got a marvellous memory - you've always had.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	I'd do that.~~<br />~~	+	* NF Brilliant.
−	NF That sounds alright. It's gonna stop in a moment.~~<br />~~	+
−	CP Right.~~<br />~~	+
−	NF (inaudible) OK.~~<br />~~	+
−	CP Right.~~<br />~~	+
−	NF Brilliant.	+

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Archiblog at 16:46, 11 December 2025

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	* NF ... the satellite one.		* NF ... the satellite one.
		+	*
	* CP Oh yes, yes. Well bring ... But they will.		* CP Oh yes, yes. Well bring ... But they will.
		+	*
	* NF Oh I'm going to. I've just received it and for the first time - I've been teaching for eight years or trying to teach for eight years - for the first time I've, I've got some things that I think, well, if they don't, if they're not listening or ...		* NF Oh I'm going to. I've just received it and for the first time - I've been teaching for eight years or trying to teach for eight years - for the first time I've, I've got some things that I think, well, if they don't, if they're not listening or ...
		+	*
	* CP No.		* CP No.
		+	*
	* NF ...'cause they can learn while they're daydreaming sometimes ...		* NF ...'cause they can learn while they're daydreaming sometimes ...
		+	*
	* CP Yes.		* CP Yes.
		+	*
	* NF .. and if they see this map on the wall and see the World differently ...		* NF .. and if they see this map on the wall and see the World differently ...
		+	*
	* CP That's right, just ...		* CP That's right, just ...
		+	*
	* NF ... that's a more important lesson than anything.		* NF ... that's a more important lesson than anything.
		+	*
	* CP That'd be marvellous - that's very good. But then then you see then you look at it again, while they're looking at it again, and see what else you get from it.		* CP That'd be marvellous - that's very good. But then then you see then you look at it again, while they're looking at it again, and see what else you get from it.
		+	*
	* NF It's um, it's quite a comfortable - if that's the right word - place to sort of test my own thoughts.		* NF It's um, it's quite a comfortable - if that's the right word - place to sort of test my own thoughts.
		+	*
	* CP Yes, yes, yes.		* CP Yes, yes, yes.
−	* NF ... without - you know, I'm aware of my own responsibilities ~~inthe~~ sense that they and their parents want them to pass exams and ... (pause) ...phew!	+	*
		+	* NF ... without - you know, I'm aware of my own responsibilities in the sense that they and their parents want them to pass exams and ... (pause) ...phew!
		+	*
	* CP But you see I really do think if you (pause) put some ordering and priority of your own ... in in almost in the order that that gave you the feeling up your spine when you looked at Medikit - it's not the content of Medikit ...		* CP But you see I really do think if you (pause) put some ordering and priority of your own ... in in almost in the order that that gave you the feeling up your spine when you looked at Medikit - it's not the content of Medikit ...
		+	*
	* NF That's right...		* NF That's right...
		+	*
	* CP ... it was just some sort of ... sort of a pro-, a constructive comprehensiveness of of of that as it, as it struck you. I mean I'm just saying because Dugdale was a student of mine and he would he would probably f-, he would probably be awed by the order you saw in it.		* CP ... it was just some sort of ... sort of a pro-, a constructive comprehensiveness of of of that as it, as it struck you. I mean I'm just saying because Dugdale was a student of mine and he would he would probably f-, he would probably be awed by the order you saw in it.
		+	*
	* NF Well up until now I've deliberately not contacted him ...		* NF Well up until now I've deliberately not contacted him ...
		+	*
	* CP Yes.		* CP Yes.
		+	*
	* NF ... but it might be an idea to.		* NF ... but it might be an idea to.
		+	*
	* CP Well just just go a bit more so that you've got your i-		* CP Well just just go a bit more so that you've got your i-
		+	*
	* NF Mmm-		* NF Mmm-

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−	* NF	+	* CP ... your your evidence and order
		+	* NF Yes, I'll take your advice (inaudible) ... I'll probably leave ...
		+	* CP. and then you con-... mom, mmm.. otherwise...
		+	* NF I'm not in a hurry.
		+	* CP ... otherwise, no, knowing Tony he'll just start trying to remember what he thought about it when he did it to explain it. But you, it's far more, you're using it as a catalyst - just like I use American Comics, still, I'll pick you up - I don't keep them for very long but but the whole way themes develop - not the drawings of them, the themes - they're very interesting they're very good because they break, they're an ageist thing ...
		+	* NF Well I was going to say.
		+	* CP ... yeah ... the readers of them are prepared to think in in in a way that they seem very logical - actually the "Tank Girl' they that's run out now it was only a few issues ...
		+	* NF Tank Girl' (laughs).
		+	* CP ... I got all those - and it was very interesting how, in fact, in one way her mother was still alive and and she was a terrible woman and Tank Girl is not a very nice girl at all but it was very interesting that they could they, could write such a sloppy conventionally sort of, it was almost Barchester Towers' really, theme. It was riveting and it was riveting to the kids who read it ...
		+	* NF Yes.
		+	* CP ... so what I'm saying is that it might be Medikit or or me with Tank Girl, you know, you you it it sparks off something ...
		+	* NF Tank Girl sounds promising.
		+	* CP Yeah but what - er yes - and what I'd do with you ... and there's all sorts of things of not really being sure whether um whether things are good or evil in a very sort of pictorial direct form and and does it really matter, in in a particular situation, you know, and then there's this this this, it's what you said when you came in, it isn't all that important where you finish up but it is important to have some order so that - it, which is why I would have put logic and language before you know, if language was communications ...
		+	* NF Well...
		+	* CP ... I'd have done logic and language first ...
		+	* NF ... we don't need to look at the Critical Path one but you see I was looking at them and it doesn't it's not it's not an order that's coming from inside - well, obviously, it's one outside me - but it's, and I'm thinking well how does that work and do you, how do you see it ...
		+
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		+
		+	* CP hat's right. But, but, but ...<br />
		+	NE I always think I'm missing something.<br />
		+	CP (laughs) Well, look, perhaps you are but..<br />
		+	N F Oh yes, I'm sure.<br />
		+	CP No, no perhaps ... no. no but perhaps you're not but the point<br />
		+	is that I feel that I'm not being useful enough. There's a<br />
		+	difference between comparing my thoughts with Bucky's thoughts<br />
		+	for you to then assimilate as a just another set, you know, as<br />
		+	a lot of others could do, but If you if you want to make a full<br />
		+	u m exchange if you did your ordering, which you've partly done,<br />
		+	in in a form that can be sent in one sheet and said "I'd like<br />
		+	to discuss this", you know, and there's big blanks, it doesn't<br />
		+	matter, cause you could then say "Well, I don't mind that<br />
		+	being a blank - I know something's gonna happen there ...<br />
		+	(inaudible)<br />
		+	CP • something's gonna happen there, but I don't know" and I'm<br />
		+	busy saying "Well I, that blank I'd put this" - you then have<br />
		+	another thing giving •..<br />
		+	NF So it's a game.<br />
		+	Yes.<br />
		+	NF Yeah, yeah, I can do that. I'd like - yeah, that sounds - I<br />
		+	hadn't thought of that at all.<br />
		+	C P Well then it's something that you can hand through to Roy<br />
		+	Landau, I think - because you don't always have to see them ..<br />
		+	and and you're moving on because then then your yours is as<br />
		+	particular as any of these things and it's a useful tool. I'd<br />
		+	do that next thing, really. You've got you've got enough -<br />
		+	you've read enough...<br />
		+	NE Mmm.<br />
		+	CP • because you've got a marvellous memory - you've always had.<br />
		+	I'd do that.<br />
		+	NF That sounds alright. It's gonna stop in a moment.<br />
		+	CP Right.<br />
		+	NF (inaudible) OK.<br />
		+	CP Right.<br />
		+	NF Brilliant.

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−	* NF the satellite one.~~<br />~~	+	* NF ... the satellite one.
−	CP Oh yes, yes. Well bring But they will.~~<br />~~	+	* CP Oh yes, yes. Well bring ... But they will.
−	NF Oh I'm going to. I've just received it and for the first time -~~<br />~~	+	* NF Oh I'm going to. I've just received it and for the first time - I've been teaching for eight years or trying to teach for eight years - for the first time I've, I've got some things that I think, well, if they don't, if they're not listening or ...
−	I've been teaching for eight years or trying to teach for eight~~<br />~~	+	* CP No.
−	years - for the first time I've, I've got some things that I~~<br />~~	+	* NF ...'cause they can learn while they're daydreaming sometimes ...
−	think, well, if they don't, if they're not listening or ...~~<br />~~	+	* CP Yes.
−	CP No.~~<br />~~	+	* NF .. and if they see this map on the wall and see the World differently ...
−	'cause they can learn while they're daydreaming sometimes~~<br />~~	+	* CP That's right, just ...
−	CP Yes.~~<br />~~	+	* NF ... that's a more important lesson than anything.
−	NF .. and if they see this map on the wall and see the World~~<br />~~	+	* CP That'd be marvellous - that's very good. But then then you see then you look at it again, while they're looking at it again, and see what else you get from it.
−	~~d i f E e r e n t l y …~~ . .~~<br />~~	+	* NF It's um, it's quite a comfortable - if that's the right word - place to sort of test my own thoughts.
−	CP That's right, just ...~~<br />~~	+	* CP Yes, yes, yes.
−	NF . that's a more important lesson than anything.~~<br />~~	+	* NF ... without - you know, I'm aware of my own responsibilities inthe sense that they and their parents want them to pass exams and ... (pause) ...phew!
−	CP That'd be marvellous - that's very good. But then then you see~~<br />~~	+	* CP But you see I really do think if you (pause) put some ordering and priority of your own ... in in almost in the order that that gave you the feeling up your spine when you looked at Medikit - it's not the content of Medikit ...
−	then you look at it again, while they're looking at it again,~~<br />~~	+	* NF That's right...
−	and see what else you get from it.~~<br />~~	+	* CP ... it was just some sort of ... sort of a pro-, a constructive comprehensiveness of of of that as it, as it struck you. I mean I'm just saying because Dugdale was a student of mine and he would he would probably f-, he would probably be awed by the order you saw in it.
−	NE It's um, it's quite a comfortable - if that's the right word -~~<br />~~	+	* NF Well up until now I've deliberately not contacted him ...
−	place to sort of test ~~m y~~ own thoughts.~~<br />~~	+	* CP Yes.
−	CP Yes, yes, yes.~~<br />~~	+	* NF ... but it might be an idea to.
−	NF ... without - you know, I'm aware of my own responsibilities ~~in<br />~~	+	* CP Well just just go a bit more so that you've got your i-
−	~~the~~ sense that they and their parents want them to pass exams~~<br />~~	+	* NF Mmm-
−	and ... (pause) ...phew!~~<br />~~	+
−	~~C P~~ But you see I really do think if you (pause) put some ordering~~<br />~~	+	-----
−	and priority of your own ... in in almost in the order that~~<br />~~	+	= Page 13 =
−	that gave you the feeling up your spine when you looked at~~<br />~~	+
−	Medikit - it's not the content of Medikit ...~~<br />~~	+	* NF
−	NF That's right.~~<br />~~	+
−	.. it was just some sort of ... sort of a pro-, a constructive~~<br />~~	+
−	comprehensiveness of of of that as it, as it struck you. I mean~~<br />~~	+
−	I'm just saying because Dugdale was a student of mine and he~~<br />~~	+
−	would he would probably f-, he would probably be ~~aved~~ by the~~<br />~~	+
−	order you saw in it.~~<br />~~	+
−	~~Wel1~~ up until now I've deliberately not contacted him ...~~<br />~~	+
−	CP Yes.~~<br />~~	+
−	NE ... but it might be an idea to.~~<br />~~	+
−	CP Well just just go a bit more so that you've got your i-~~<br />~~	+
−	NE Mmm-	+

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Archiblog at 16:27, 11 December 2025

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−	* NF	+	* NF Well, in the sense that because of the National Curriculum and its failings ...
		+	*
		+	* CP Yes, yes.
		+	*
		+	* NF ... we - I'm not a Head of Department, I'm not interested in any of that...
		+	*
		+	* CP No, no.
		+	*
		+	* NF ... but we've got - so the National Curriculum to, in many ways has fallen so, so we can bring in some of our own ideas ...
		+	*
		+	* CP Oh well that's why (inaudible) why yes ...
		+	*
		+	* NF .. but it's very difficult to match it to - I'm not asking you - it seems a real problem in this country and presumably it happens in every country...
		+	*
		+	* CP Oh it is. No, but it's the thing that the the actual, the actual, the actual fibre, the tibre of the mechanics of actually teaching is often occa-, often obscured by this ageism - you see you really, I mean you of all people, I would imagine that you actually relate with the children more than most ...
		+	*
		+	* NF Uh uh-
		+	*
		+	* CP... now the only other way you, if there's a little bit of slack in the curriculum, to bring in something that that that that really puzzles you and find how to rewrite it so that it interests them - because then you're learning how to get over the ageism thing irrespective of the subject matter which anyhow interests you...
		+	*
		+	* NF Yes, I started to do that - I brought of some of this in, the ...
		+	*
		+	* CP Yup.
		+	*
		+	* NF ... and we looked at geodesic structures and this sort of thing ...
		+	*
		+	* CP Why not bring some of the Medikit thing in, you know, with with with the big spread - there was a World Map wasn't there as well, I'm trying to remember ...
		+	*
		+	* NF Why why do you say that - in the AD? In the ...
		+	*
		+	* CP Yes, I thought there was.
		+	*
		+	* NF There wasn't a world map.
		+	*
		+	* CP No?
		+	*
		+	* NF But I, I've got the Dymaxion Map which I love ...
		+	*
		+	* CP Yes.
		+
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		+
		+	* NF the satellite one.<br />
		+	CP Oh yes, yes. Well bring But they will.<br />
		+	NF Oh I'm going to. I've just received it and for the first time -<br />
		+	I've been teaching for eight years or trying to teach for eight<br />
		+	years - for the first time I've, I've got some things that I<br />
		+	think, well, if they don't, if they're not listening or ...<br />
		+	CP No.<br />
		+	'cause they can learn while they're daydreaming sometimes<br />
		+	CP Yes.<br />
		+	NF .. and if they see this map on the wall and see the World<br />
		+	d i f E e r e n t l y … . .<br />
		+	CP That's right, just ...<br />
		+	NF . that's a more important lesson than anything.<br />
		+	CP That'd be marvellous - that's very good. But then then you see<br />
		+	then you look at it again, while they're looking at it again,<br />
		+	and see what else you get from it.<br />
		+	NE It's um, it's quite a comfortable - if that's the right word -<br />
		+	place to sort of test m y own thoughts.<br />
		+	CP Yes, yes, yes.<br />
		+	NF ... without - you know, I'm aware of my own responsibilities in<br />
		+	the sense that they and their parents want them to pass exams<br />
		+	and ... (pause) ...phew!<br />
		+	C P But you see I really do think if you (pause) put some ordering<br />
		+	and priority of your own ... in in almost in the order that<br />
		+	that gave you the feeling up your spine when you looked at<br />
		+	Medikit - it's not the content of Medikit ...<br />
		+	NF That's right.<br />
		+	.. it was just some sort of ... sort of a pro-, a constructive<br />
		+	comprehensiveness of of of that as it, as it struck you. I mean<br />
		+	I'm just saying because Dugdale was a student of mine and he<br />
		+	would he would probably f-, he would probably be aved by the<br />
		+	order you saw in it.<br />
		+	Wel1 up until now I've deliberately not contacted him ...<br />
		+	CP Yes.<br />
		+	NE ... but it might be an idea to.<br />
		+	CP Well just just go a bit more so that you've got your i-<br />
		+	NE Mmm-

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−	* CP	+	* CP But it was very useful, and particularly the Utopia or oblivion, I find that, I find it very, very inter... - a very good thing to read but it's now - you've almost read enough ...
		+	*
		+	* NF I'm absorbing all that, now I'm gonna go through this. Yeah, I know, yeah, I know that.
		+	*
		+	* CP ... and that's - find time because you can bring these back in,do you see, and answer these questions yourself. NF Well, no I think to some extent I have answered them ...
		+	*
		+	* CP Yeah.
		+	*
		+	* NF. because - somebody once said don't ask any questions that you don't know the answer to - I don't agree with that ...
		+	*
		+	* CP No, no.
		+	*
		+	* NF . I think in an interview I need to know a little bit.
		+	*
		+	* CP Oh yes, yeah.
		+	*
		+	* NF OK. Do you use the Internet?
		+	*
		+	* CP No - I exercise myself on it. But I don't - I'm lazy actually - I'm wanting it to be far easier to access than it is at the moment. I mean I - it's this thing, this obsessive thing I have about time and waste. I find that there's so much waste.
		+	*
		+	* NF You could vacuum time away on the Internet.
		+	*
		+	* CP Oh yes, yes.
		+	*
		+	* NF We have it at school and ...
		+	*
		+	* CP Ah yes, well I think I would use it there. I go over to Cyberia - the coffee bar.
		+	*
		+	* NF Yes there's one in Oxford - I don't know if it's the same name. This thing about ageism and I work with children from 11 to 16.
		+	*
		+	* CP Yes.
		+	* NF ... and there's very little, in - you know, they call it'Technology', it's been 'Craft, Design and Technology' and - so Design is the thread, but I seem incapable of combining - there's no connection between the things that I'm really interested in and what we do in school ...
		+	*
		+	* CP Ah.
		+	*
		+	* NF ... and I think that's not necessarily a personal failing because it's quite a task, I think, to devise the curriculum for children.
		+	*
		+	* CP It may be in actually not .. I mean you devise the curriculum do you, to a certain extent?
		+
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		+	* NF

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−	* NF cause - that's what I'm interested in - is a picture. I want -~~<br />~~	+	* NF cause - that's what I'm interested in - is a picture. I want - the thing that the Medikit did for me was - I opened it one November, November 1971, and I - you know when you get that funny feeling in your back ...
−	the thing that the Medikit did for me was - I opened it one~~<br />~~	+	*
−	November, November 1971, and I - you know when you get that~~<br />~~	+	* CP Yes.
−	funny feeling in your back ...~~<br />~~	+	*
−	CP Yes.~~<br />~~	+	* NF...which I've only had a few times in my life, and I got it then. I was doing some other work so I made a note of where it was, finished the other work and then, and then I came back to it and I suppose I had a fix . I don't think it's a fix now and I don't think I'm fixed on Bucky Fuller - I can see that ... it. I need to burst through this ...
−	..which I've only had a few times in my life, and I got it~~<br />~~	+	*
−	then. I was doing some other work so I made a note of where it~~<br />~~	+	* CP Yes.
−	was, finished the other work and then, and then I came back to~~<br />~~	+	*
−	it and I suppose I had a fix . I don't think it's a fix now and~~<br />~~	+	* NF ..and I've forgotten where I was going with that.
−	I don't think I'm fixed on Bucky Fuller - I can see that ...~~<br />~~	+	*
−	it. I need to burst through this ...~~<br />~~	+	* CP No, no that's alright. Why not, why not - that's alright - (inaudible) that - go back to Medikit - that was Tony Dugdale wasn't it - he's around somewhere - he's in, but - go back to Medikit because it might have attracted you because it suggested an order, not in content but in procedures.
−	CP Yes.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	NE ..and I've forgotten where I was going with that.~~<br />~~	+	* NF It was to do with this picture ...
−	~~CP<br />~~	+	*
−	No, no that's alright. Why not, why not - that's alright -~~<br />~~	+	* CP Yes.
−	(inaudible) that - go back to Medikit - that was Tony Dugdale~~<br />~~	+	*
−	wasn't it - he's around somewhere - he's in, but - go back to~~<br />~~	+	* NF ... that it, in one double spread
−	Medikit because it might have attracted you because it~~<br />~~	+	*
−	suggested an order, not in content but in procedures.~~<br />~~	+	* CP Yes, that's right, it ...
−	~~NF<br />~~	+	*
−	It was to do with this picture •..~~<br />~~	+	* NF ... symbolised - or my interpretation of it - that it symbolised everything and so I think it's my interpretation of it ...
−	CP Yes.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	NF • that it, in one double spread~~<br />~~	+	* CP Yes.
−	CP Yes, that's right, it ...~~<br />~~	+	*
−	•. symbolised - or my interpretation of it - that it~~<br />~~	+	* NF ... rather than it ...
−	symbolised everything and so I think it's my interpretation of~~<br />~~	+	*
−	it ...~~<br />~~	+	* CP That's it, that's it. So it's worth going back to it and actually explaining your interpretation to yourself in written form or diagram - doesn't matter - so that that you can actually use as an illustration of your ordering even if it has big gaps. I mean that would be an ideal way really to present someone with your embryonic ordering. It's, it's getting that - it's turning it back on you - you're so, you're very intelligent and you're very, you pick, you have great memory and you pick these things up - no I wasn't, wasn't assuming that you were Buckystruck ...
−	CP Yes.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	NF rather than it ...~~<br />~~	+	* NF No I know you weren't.
−	CP That's it, that's it. So it's worth going back to it and~~<br />~~	+	*
−	actually explaining your interpretation to yourself in written~~<br />~~	+	* CP ... or moonstruck at all.
−	form or diagram - doesn't matter - so that that you can~~<br />~~	+	*
−	actually use as an illustration of your ordering even if it has~~<br />~~	+	* NF No, no - I know that.
−	big gaps. I mean that would be an ideal way really to present~~<br />~~	+
−	someone with your embryonic ordering. It's, it's getting that -~~<br />~~	+	-----
−	it's turning it back on you - you're so, you're very~~<br />~~	+	= Page 10 =
−	intelligent and you're very, you pick, you have great memory~~<br />~~	+
−	and you pick these things up - no I wasn't, wasn't assuming~~<br />~~	+	* CP
−	that you were Buckystruck ...~~<br />~~	+
−	NE No I know you weren't~~<br />~~	+
−	CP . or moonstruck at all~~<br />~~	+
−	NF No, no - I know that.	+

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		+	* NF cause - that's what I'm interested in - is a picture. I want -<br />
		+	the thing that the Medikit did for me was - I opened it one<br />
		+	November, November 1971, and I - you know when you get that<br />
		+	funny feeling in your back ...<br />
		+	CP Yes.<br />
		+	..which I've only had a few times in my life, and I got it<br />
		+	then. I was doing some other work so I made a note of where it<br />
		+	was, finished the other work and then, and then I came back to<br />
		+	it and I suppose I had a fix . I don't think it's a fix now and<br />
		+	I don't think I'm fixed on Bucky Fuller - I can see that ...<br />
		+	it. I need to burst through this ...<br />
		+	CP Yes.<br />
		+	NE ..and I've forgotten where I was going with that.<br />
		+	CP<br />
		+	No, no that's alright. Why not, why not - that's alright -<br />
		+	(inaudible) that - go back to Medikit - that was Tony Dugdale<br />
		+	wasn't it - he's around somewhere - he's in, but - go back to<br />
		+	Medikit because it might have attracted you because it<br />
		+	suggested an order, not in content but in procedures.<br />
		+	NF<br />
		+	It was to do with this picture •..<br />
		+	CP Yes.<br />
		+	NF • that it, in one double spread<br />
		+	CP Yes, that's right, it ...<br />
		+	•. symbolised - or my interpretation of it - that it<br />
		+	symbolised everything and so I think it's my interpretation of<br />
		+	it ...<br />
		+	CP Yes.<br />
		+	NF rather than it ...<br />
		+	CP That's it, that's it. So it's worth going back to it and<br />
		+	actually explaining your interpretation to yourself in written<br />
		+	form or diagram - doesn't matter - so that that you can<br />
		+	actually use as an illustration of your ordering even if it has<br />
		+	big gaps. I mean that would be an ideal way really to present<br />
		+	someone with your embryonic ordering. It's, it's getting that -<br />
		+	it's turning it back on you - you're so, you're very<br />
		+	intelligent and you're very, you pick, you have great memory<br />
		+	and you pick these things up - no I wasn't, wasn't assuming<br />
		+	that you were Buckystruck ...<br />
		+	NE No I know you weren't<br />
		+	CP . or moonstruck at all<br />
		+	NF No, no - I know that.

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	* CP Oh yes.		* CP Oh yes.
	*		*
−	* NF ... the idea of a global or a worldwide housing service and I hadn't read the essay - Fuller's essay on 'Designing a new industry' and something to do with a worldwide dwelling service and so all those things sort of tied together for me and seemed very - the way he talks about it and the way I think about it~~<br />~~	+	* NF ... the idea of a global or a worldwide housing service and I hadn't read the essay - Fuller's essay on 'Designing a new industry' and something to do with a worldwide dwelling service and so all those things sort of tied together for me and seemed very - the way he talks about it and the way I think about it
		+
	as being all inclusive - so I don't know what my question is here.		as being all inclusive - so I don't know what my question is here.
		+
	*		*
	* CP No, no - it doesn't matter - that's enough I think - now there's a person who, there's a person who wrote do you remember - 'cause you used to read Architectural Design ...		* CP No, no - it doesn't matter - that's enough I think - now there's a person who, there's a person who wrote do you remember - 'cause you used to read Architectural Design ...
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	* NF I did.		* NF I did.
	*		*
−	* CP Do you remember there was an issue on systems? And there was one or two special issues one of which was on Karl Popper and~~<br />~~	+	* CP Do you remember there was an issue on systems? And there was one or two special issues one of which was on Karl Popper and
		+
	Ozbekhan ...		Ozbekhan ...
		+
	*		*
	* NF Oh that was the - yes.		* NF Oh that was the - yes.
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−	* CP es that's it.~~<br />~~	+	* CP Yes that's it.
−	NE Or it's behind.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	CP But that is quite good.~~<br />~~	+	* NF Or it's behind.
−	NE You'll give me contact?~~<br />~~	+	*
−	Yes - he prefers to be written to, if you don't mind, because~~<br />~~	+	* CP But that is quite good.
−	he doesn't like being phoned up.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	~~NE<br />~~	+	* NF You'll give me contact?
−	No.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	~~CP<br />~~	+	* CP Yes - he prefers to be written to, if you don't mind, because he doesn't like being phoned up.
−	But you could mention me - mention Ced - then, in fact, you, it~~<br />~~	+	*
−	will be valuable, that will, because it will introduce you via~~<br />~~	+	* NF No.
−	the articles to other people who he may know or may be able to~~<br />~~	+	*
−	comment on because also he's very interested in establishing~~<br />~~	+	* CP But you could mention me - mention Ced - then, in fact, you, it will be valuable, that will, because it will introduce you via the articles to other people who he may know or may be able to comment on because also he's very interested in establishing orders - so it's ideal for you. I'd just take those two issues.
−	orders - so it's ideal for you. I'd just take those two issues.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	NF OK.~~<br />~~	+	* NF OK.
−	CP Take the 'Complexity' one and If you can get it take the other~~<br />~~	+	*
−	one.~~<br />~~	+	* CP Take the 'Complexity' one and If you can get it take the other one.
−	NF I've studied it in the past.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	CP Yes - 'cause as I say Gordon's just died unfortunately.~~<br />~~	+	* NF I've studied it in the past.
−	NF ~~H e~~ was teaching, I noticed he'd done a lecture at the ~~A A~~ last~~<br />~~	+	*
−	year probably - no, a bit longer ago.~~<br />~~	+	* CP Yes - 'cause as I say Gordon's just died unfortunately.
−	CP Oh he taught there for a long time. The point about - I don't~~<br />~~	+	*
−	want to sell Bucky short - but I think the point is that as~~<br />~~	+	* NF He was teaching, I noticed he'd done a lecture at the AA last year probably - no, a bit longer ago.
−	you've got the key books and you've read them I think that in~~<br />~~	+	*
−	establishing your own order I vould match it against his -~~<br />~~	+	* CP Oh he taught there for a long time. The point about - I don't want to sell Bucky short - but I think the point is that as you've got the key books and you've read them I think that in establishing your own order I vould match it against his - don't be overawed by his, his ...
−	don't be ~~overaved~~ by his, his •..~~<br />~~	+	*
−	NF Match it against whose? I'm sorry.~~<br />~~	+	* NF Match it against whose? I'm sorry.
−	CP Against Bucky's. Take something like ...~~<br />~~	+	*
−	NF Match my own order? OK.~~<br />~~	+	* CP Against Bucky's. Take something like ...
−	CP Yes, because that's what you're missing at the moment. You're~~<br />~~	+	*
−	very intelligently drawing on others, but you need some, some -~~<br />~~	+	* NF Match my own order? OK.
−	it doesn't matter how coarse - some little checklist - you'~~ve<br />~~	+	*
−	~~got~~ answer, to be able to answer the question "What, what ...",~~<br />~~	+	* CP Yes, because that's what you're missing at the moment. You're very intelligently drawing on others, but you need some, some - it doesn't matter how coarse - some little checklist - you'vegot answer, to be able to answer the question "What, what ...", you know, have you put those in an order of priority yourself?
−	you know, have you put those in an order of priority yourself?~~<br />~~	+	*
−	NE Yes, yes.~~<br />~~	+	* NF Yes, yes.
−	CP Have you?~~<br />~~	+	*
−	NF Yes. It starts with the picture of Universe and my ~~last<br />~~	+	* CP Have you?
−	~~question~~ - 'cause when I sent you the first document this year~~<br />~~	+	*
−	called *Schema A' ...~~<br />~~	+	* NF Yes. It starts with the picture of Universe and my lastquestion - 'cause when I sent you the first document this year called *Schema A' ...
−	CP Yes.	+	*
		+	* CP Yes.
		+
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−	* NF	+	* NF ... which is a method for individual and then going on with others I don't have the individual part yet and it's - he talks about, I need to quote him really, Universal •.. Requirements and in the index it's got an additional word Universal DwellingRequirements and for going over twenty years I've been interested in this - I called it Domestikit, and I brought a big long thing that folded out ...
		+	*
		+	* CP Oh yes.
		+	*
		+	* NF ... the idea of a global or a worldwide housing service and I hadn't read the essay - Fuller's essay on 'Designing a new industry' and something to do with a worldwide dwelling service and so all those things sort of tied together for me and seemed very - the way he talks about it and the way I think about it<br />
		+	as being all inclusive - so I don't know what my question is here.
		+	*
		+	* CP No, no - it doesn't matter - that's enough I think - now there's a person who, there's a person who wrote do you remember - 'cause you used to read Architectural Design ...
		+	*
		+	* NF I did.
		+	*
		+	* CP Do you remember there was an issue on systems? And there was one or two special issues one of which was on Karl Popper and<br />
		+	Ozbekhan ...
		+	*
		+	* NF Oh that was the - yes.
		+	*
		+	* CP That was the clocks and watches - that's a good one. Well, Roy Landau's around but he does need - he thinks in a rather, a rather tight ordered way so you'd have to have, have to have some questions, I mean there need be no ...
		+	*
		+	* NF 'cause you're very generous with my 'approach' (laughs) ...
		+	*
		+	* CP No, no. No, it's fascinating - it's just time - that's the only worry. I'm just thinking that if you could have access to one or two of those special issues, only two, that are very ...
		+	*
		+	* NF Oh, the magazines - I've got the 'Complexity' one.
		+	*
		+	* CP You've got the "Complexity' one.
		+	*
		+	* NF I never did get a copy of the 'Popular Demand' one but I can go to the library.
		+	*
		+	* CP Yes. If you got those either you could ask him about individual - what the individual essays meant - if you wanted that ...
		+	*
		+	* NF Are we talking about Roy?
		+	*
		+	* CP Yes, yup, that's right - he's on the cover of the 'Complexity' one - that's his face.
		+	*
		+	* NF Mmm - peering through.
		+
		+	= =
		+
		+	= Page 8 =
		+
		+	* CP es that's it.<br />
		+	NE Or it's behind.<br />
		+	CP But that is quite good.<br />
		+	NE You'll give me contact?<br />
		+	Yes - he prefers to be written to, if you don't mind, because<br />
		+	he doesn't like being phoned up.<br />
		+	NE<br />
		+	No.<br />
		+	CP<br />
		+	But you could mention me - mention Ced - then, in fact, you, it<br />
		+	will be valuable, that will, because it will introduce you via<br />
		+	the articles to other people who he may know or may be able to<br />
		+	comment on because also he's very interested in establishing<br />
		+	orders - so it's ideal for you. I'd just take those two issues.<br />
		+	NF OK.<br />
		+	CP Take the 'Complexity' one and If you can get it take the other<br />
		+	one.<br />
		+	NF I've studied it in the past.<br />
		+	CP Yes - 'cause as I say Gordon's just died unfortunately.<br />
		+	NF H e was teaching, I noticed he'd done a lecture at the A A last<br />
		+	year probably - no, a bit longer ago.<br />
		+	CP Oh he taught there for a long time. The point about - I don't<br />
		+	want to sell Bucky short - but I think the point is that as<br />
		+	you've got the key books and you've read them I think that in<br />
		+	establishing your own order I vould match it against his -<br />
		+	don't be overaved by his, his •..<br />
		+	NF Match it against whose? I'm sorry.<br />
		+	CP Against Bucky's. Take something like ...<br />
		+	NF Match my own order? OK.<br />
		+	CP Yes, because that's what you're missing at the moment. You're<br />
		+	very intelligently drawing on others, but you need some, some -<br />
		+	it doesn't matter how coarse - some little checklist - you've<br />
		+	got answer, to be able to answer the question "What, what ...",<br />
		+	you know, have you put those in an order of priority yourself?<br />
		+	NE Yes, yes.<br />
		+	CP Have you?<br />
		+	NF Yes. It starts with the picture of Universe and my last<br />
		+	question - 'cause when I sent you the first document this year<br />
		+	called *Schema A' ...<br />
		+	CP Yes.

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	* CP Yes. No that's why I don't teach at any school.		* CP Yes. No that's why I don't teach at any school.
		+	* NF Yes.C P Oh no this this I mean this particular one - the Utopian or Oblivion - should be required reading in first year at schools of architecture I think. No I'm criticising this at a very high level you know a hard level. It's almost presumptuous to criticize some bits of of of Bucky
		+	* NF So we have overlapping curricula?
		+	* CP Yes, yes that's right. Um. the, sorry.
		+	* NF Well no I was only going to say that really that's the way it should be, that we shouldn't, no I don't know about should be but um - we overlap anyway don't we - people just overlap and it would be wrong that would be very prescriptive wouldn't it if we all adhered to that?
		+	* CP That's right. NE So that's knocked that one down, good.
		+	* CP Yes.
		+	* NF Perhaps try an easy one.
		+	* CP Put this in the right place.
		+	* NF Thank you. Well alright just - you see it's not, I've I made an assumption, well I made an assumption that you you teach design science which is wrong but it was near to, so thinking about - I'm not sure if I'm asking the right questions now. I was going to say who else is involved in this field that we'll call 'anticipatory design'?
		+	* CP Well in the - it's not strictly architectural - but people who can be found in the context of schools of architecture at the moment, but think of things far more than the schools do I would recommend Fred Scott - well worth talking to.
		+	* NF Could you tell me the institution?
		+	* CP Well, he's at Kingston School of Architecture.
		+	* NF Is that in London or Hull?
		+	* CP Well, yes it's in London - it's Kingston-on-Thames.
		+	* NF 'cause I'm really out of touch with all of this.
		+	* CP Well if you - we can find the addresses later, things like that, and David Greene is a very interesting man.

−	~~NF Yes.<br />~~	+	-----
−	~~C P Oh no this this I mean this particular one~~ - ~~the Utopian or<br />~~	+	= Page 6 =
−	~~Oblivion~~ - ~~should~~ be ~~required reading~~ in ~~first year at schools<br />~~	+
−	~~of architecture~~ I ~~think~~. No I'~~m criticising this at a very high<br />~~	+	* NF Is he the chap who used to be in Archigram?
−	~~level you know a hard level. It's almost presumptuous~~ to~~<br />~~	+	*
−	~~criticize some bits of of of Bucky<br />~~	+	* CP Yes, yes. Those two I would, I would recommend particularly.the - I wouldn't bother with James Mellor who used to ...
−	NF ~~So we have overlapping curricula?<br />~~	+	*
−	CP Yes, ~~yes that~~'s ~~right. Um~~. the~~, sorry~~.~~<br />~~	+	* NF He edited ...
−	NF ~~Well no~~ I ~~was only going~~ to ~~say~~ that ~~really~~ that's ~~the way~~ it~~<br />~~	+	*
−	~~should be~~, ~~that we shouldn~~'t~~, no~~ I ~~dont~~' ~~know about should be<br />~~	+	* CP Yes, he was sort of Bucky's mentor but he's let it slip, I think - not in a rude way. The - there's sort of there's a young man who's at the RCA. I'd have to - I can't tell you.
−	~~but um~~ - ~~we overlap anyway~~ don't ~~we - people just overlap and<br />~~	+	*
−	~~it would be wrong that would be very prescriptive wouldn~~'~~t it<br />~~	+	* NF Perhaps afterwards.
−	~~if we all adhered~~ to ~~that?<br />~~	+	*
−	CP ~~That~~'s right.~~<br />~~	+	* CP I'd have to - I can't tell you - he's an anglo- - he's actually very English but he has a Dutch name well I'd have to look that up and all these people you want to recommend if you want to talk with people that you haven't met before it's worth asking them to recommend just one person so it increases the field.
−	~~NE So that's knocked that one down~~, ~~good~~.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	~~CP Yes~~.~~<br />~~	+	* NF 'cause, I don't think I used the word 'follower' - I don't regard myself as a follower but I'm trying to find my own way.
−	~~NF Perhaps try an easy one~~.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	CP ~~Put this in~~ the ~~right place.<br />~~	+	* CP Yes - that's right.
−	~~NF Thank~~ you~~. Well alright~~ just - you ~~see it~~'s not, I'~~ve I made an<br />~~	+	*
−	~~assumption, well I made an assumption that you you teach design<br />~~	+	* NF But I think I need to talk with others, I've got all this stuff but I'm still not through to ...
−	~~science which is wrong but it was near to, so thinking about~~ -~~<br />~~	+	*
−	I'~~m not sure if I~~'~~m asking the right questions now~~. ~~I was going<br />~~	+	* CP Well that's why the first two I suggested - they are aware of actually formulating a programme without actually finishing you know without having a particular aim in view but having some urgency about keeping progress of investigation you know so that you don't find that you're just going round in one circle. There's another man but he's yes he's quite good - these people are very they have other disciplines as well so they understand exactly what you're doing, David Greene's partner in all sorts of things - not just architectural, but I mean a man he's worked with for years - he's a man called Andrew Holmes - who and he's in London. The difficulty is at the moment is that we're just starting the holiday season - so whether you'll get them immediately, I don't know. Andrew Holmes is a very interesting man, he's very interesting actually. The programmes he sets in odd schooling that he does you wouldn't recognize it as a conventional architectural programme and he's - yes It think those three and then the Dutchman is if I find his name I find his name - I'm trying to think of some - anyhow, that's enough for the moment.
−	~~to say who else~~ is ~~involved in this field~~ that we'll ~~call<br />~~	+	*
−	'~~anticipatory design~~'~~?<br />~~	+	* NF When I phoned you the first time to quickly follow up the letter ...
−	~~C P Well~~ in ~~the -~~ it's ~~not strictly architectural~~ - ~~but people who<br />~~	+
−	~~can be found in the context of schools of architecture at the<br />~~	+	* CP Oh yes.
−	~~moment, but~~ think ~~of things far more than~~ the ~~schools do~~ I~~<br />~~	+	* NF ... and you said something about "you're trying to find a method" and I hadn't thought of that way but I think in many ways that's true I am trying to find a method and Buckminster Fuller suggested this critical path ...
−	~~would recommend Fred Scott~~ - ~~well worth talking~~ to.~~<br />~~	+	*
−	NF ~~Could~~ you ~~tell me~~ the ~~institution?<br />~~	+	* CP Yes.
−	~~CP Well, he's at Kingston School of Architecture~~.~~<br />~~	+
−	~~NF Is that in London or Hull?<br />~~	+	-----
−	CP ~~Well,~~ yes ~~it's in London - it's Kingston-on-Thames~~.~~<br />~~	+	= Page 7 =
−	NF '~~cause~~ I'~~m really out of touch with all~~ of this.~~<br />~~	+
−	CP ~~Well if you~~ - ~~we can find the addresses later, things like<br />~~	+	* NF
−	~~that, and David Greene is a very interesting man.~~	+

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